On Friday, 21 November 2008 at 17:46, Orion Poplawski wrote: > Hello. I'm a long time Fedora contributor and sponsor, and long time > livna user. I'm interested in seeing more rpmfusion packages available > on EL, and looking to help co-maintain those packages. Welcome aboard. Are there any specific packages you'd like to see on EL?

Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Friday, 21 November 2008 at 17:46, Orion Poplawski wrote: >> Hello. I'm a long time Fedora contributor and sponsor, and long time >> livna user. I'm interested in seeing more rpmfusion packages available >> on EL, and looking to help co-maintain those packages. > Welcome aboard.

> Are there any specific packages you'd like to see on EL? At the moment - transcode and unrar.

transcode is going to depend on a lot...

On Sun, November 23, 2008 4:44 am, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > On 21.11.2008 22:45, Orion Poplawski wrote: >> Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: >>> On Friday, 21 November 2008 at 17:46, Orion Poplawski wrote: >>>> Hello. I'm a long time Fedora contributor and sponsor, and long time >>>> livna user. I'm interested in seeing more rpmfusion packages >>>> available >>>> on EL, and looking to help co-maintain those packages. >>> Welcome aboard. > A hearty "Welcome" from me as well! > >>> Are there any specific packages you'd like to see on EL? >> At the moment - transcode and unrar. > unrar is yours now. Note that it's built already, so everything should > be fine. I'm having trouble checking out unrar:

On Sun, November 23, 2008 8:56 am, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > On 23.11.2008 16:16, Orion Poplawski wrote: >> I'm having trouble checking out unrar: > Try again please -- seems your account had not made it's way to the CVS > box. Sorry for the trouble. > > CU > knurd > still no go: cvs -d :ext:orion@cvs.rpmfusion.org:/cvs/nonfree co unrar ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any)

On 24.11.2008 15:38, Paul Howarth wrote: > Orion Poplawski wrote: >> On Sun, November 23, 2008 8:56 am, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >>> On 23.11.2008 16:16, Orion Poplawski wrote: >>>> I'm having trouble checking out unrar: >>> Try again please -- seems your account had not made it's way to the >>> CVS >>> box. Sorry for the trouble. >> still no go: >> cvs -d :ext:orion@cvs.rpmfusion.org:/cvs/nonfree co unrar >> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host >> cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages >> if >> any) > Does the rpmfusion cvs server run denyhosts like the Fedora one does? /me checks Yes, seems that the case. Orion, that acaics blocked you. Try again please.

Yeah, as you tried more than 3 logins attempt before be in required membership, you had been blocked from our boxes. I just removed you from that blacklist.

Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > On 24.11.2008 15:38, Paul Howarth wrote: >> Orion Poplawski wrote: >>> On Sun, November 23, 2008 8:56 am, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >>>> On 23.11.2008 16:16, Orion Poplawski wrote: >> After changing my keys and trying to check the new ones, I was >> clobbered by denyhosts on the Fedora system and the symptoms were very >> similar. I'm seeing the same thing as Orion with my own key that I >> uploaded to the rpmfusion account system last week. > Well, in your case it's something else: You are not sponsored for CVS > yet. I considered hitting the sponsor button, but you IIRC don't > maintain any packages, hence I didn't hit it. Or do you plan to help out > anywhere? Then let me know and I'll sponsor you. I'm happy to help out co-maintaining things (e.g. for EL) as there isn't actually anything that I'm particularly interested in that's not already in rpmfusion. I was going to submit an xv package originally but I think from the wiki that there's already one there.

I did struggle to find a comprehensive list of what's available though - is there a repoview somewhere? If there is, I think it would be worth adding a link to it from the wiki somewhere that casual browsers might find it.

As I couldn't find one quickly, I thought of trying to check out modules from cvs.

As I'm a sponsor in Fedora I thought I may not need separately sponsoring for rpmfusion (the wiki isn't clear on this I think), which is evidently not the case.

Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > On 25.11.2008 11:48, Paul Howarth wrote: >> Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >>> On 24.11.2008 15:38, Paul Howarth wrote: >>>> Orion Poplawski wrote: >>>>> On Sun, November 23, 2008 8:56 am, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >>>>>> On 23.11.2008 16:16, Orion Poplawski wrote: >>>> After changing my keys and trying to check the new ones, I was >>>> clobbered by denyhosts on the Fedora system and the symptoms were >>>> very similar. I'm seeing the same thing as Orion with my own key >>>> that I uploaded to the rpmfusion account system last week. >>> Well, in your case it's something else: You are not sponsored for CVS >>> yet. I considered hitting the sponsor button, but you IIRC don't >>> maintain any packages, hence I didn't hit it. Or do you plan to help >>> out anywhere? Then let me know and I'll sponsor you. >> I'm happy to help out co-maintaining things (e.g. for EL) as there >> isn't actually anything that I'm particularly interested in that's not >> already in rpmfusion. I was going to submit an xv package originally >> but I think from the wiki that there's already one there. > Yeah. Do you want to take care of that for the EL branch? Then I'll > branch it. Yes, I'm happy to do that.

>> I did struggle to find a comprehensive list of what's available though >> - is there a repoview somewhere? If there is, I think it would be >> worth adding a link to it >> from the wiki somewhere that casual browsers might find it. > Yeah, as mentioned some minutes ago in > http://lists.rpmfusion.org/pipermail/rpmfusion-developers/2008-November/0... > There is a lot of things that need improvement. Our docs are one area > where we really suck. OK, I'll try to fix things where I see them; I trust there are no ACL restrictions like (parts of) the Fedora wiki?

>> As I'm a sponsor in Fedora I thought I may not need separately >> sponsoring for rpmfusion (the wiki isn't clear on this I think), which >> is evidently not the case. > Yes and no. Yes, someone has to click the "sponsor" button in FAS (/me > normally). But that's about it if you are already a sponsor or a normal > contributor in Fedora. OK, please click

(and unblock me from denyhosts - 212.56.100.58).

Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > > On 25.11.2008 12:57, Paul Howarth wrote: >> >> Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >>> >>> On 25.11.2008 11:48, Paul Howarth wrote: >>>> >>>> Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 24.11.2008 15:38, Paul Howarth wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Orion Poplawski wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, November 23, 2008 8:56 am, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 23.11.2008 16:16, Orion Poplawski wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> After changing my keys and trying to check the new ones, I was >>>>>> clobbered by denyhosts on the Fedora system and the symptoms were very >>>>>> similar. I'm seeing the same thing as Orion with my own key that I uploaded >>>>>> to the rpmfusion account system last week. >>>>> >>>>> Well, in your case it's something else: You are not sponsored for CVS >>>>> yet. I considered hitting the sponsor button, but you IIRC don't maintain >>>>> any packages, hence I didn't hit it. Or do you plan to help out anywhere? >>>>> Then let me know and I'll sponsor you. >>>> >>>> I'm happy to help out co-maintaining things (e.g. for EL) as there >>>> isn't actually anything that I'm particularly interested in that's not >>>> already in rpmfusion. I was going to submit an xv package originally but I >>>> think from the wiki that there's already one there. >>> >>> Yeah. Do you want to take care of that for the EL branch? Then I'll >>> branch it. >> >> Yes, I'm happy to do that. > > One thing before I add your name to owners.epel.list: Can you please mail > the XV owner (see > > http://cvs.rpmfusion.org/viewvc/owners/owners.list?root=nonfree&view=... > ) what his plans regarding support for EL are? Maybe he wants to take care > of it himself. OK, will do. >>>> I did struggle to find a comprehensive list of what's available though >>>> - is there a repoview somewhere? If there is, I think it would be worth >>>> adding a link to it >>>> from the wiki somewhere that casual browsers might find it. >>> >>> Yeah, as mentioned some minutes ago in >>> >>> http://lists.rpmfusion.org/pipermail/rpmfusion-developers/2008-November/0... >>> There is a lot of things that need improvement. Our docs are one area where >>> we really suck. >> >> OK, I'll try to fix things where I see them; I trust there are no ACL >> restrictions like (parts of) the Fedora wiki? > > No, the Wiki is open to all users that created an account. I created a PackageList page with links to the repoview index pages for each repo. Some things I noticed: 1. Repoview for F10 says it's "Development" rather than "Fedora 10" 2. The updates repos for Fedora 10 and EL5 are empty and don't have repoview indexes. Does repoview not behave sanely in empty repos? 3. The main release repos for Fedora 8, Fedora 9, and EL5 are empty, with all of the content being in the updates repos. Is this ever likely to change? >>>> As I'm a sponsor in Fedora I thought I may not need separately >>>> sponsoring for rpmfusion (the wiki isn't clear on this I think), which is >>>> evidently not the case. >>> >>> Yes and no. Yes, someone has to click the "sponsor" button in FAS (/me >>> normally). But that's about it if you are already a sponsor or a normal >>> contributor in Fedora. >> >> OK, please click > > Done. Thanks. >> (and unblock me from denyhosts - 212.56.100.58). > > Will do. Still seem to be blocked:

Xavier Lamien wrote: >>>> >>>> (and unblock me from denyhosts - 212.56.100.58). >>> >>> Will do. >> >> Still seem to be blocked: >> > > removed. Thanks. I'm now unblocked but my key's not working. [paul@metropolis nonfree]$ export CVSROOT=:ext:pghmcfc@cvs.rpmfusion.org:/cvs/nonfree [paul@metropolis nonfree]$ export CVS_RSH=ssh [paul@metropolis nonfree]$ cvs co common Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-with-mic). cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) My ssh key in RPM Fusion FAS is the same as my ssh key in Fedora FAS, which works OK.

Xavier Lamien wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Paul Howarth <paul(a)city-fan.org&gt; wrote: >> >> Xavier Lamien wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> (and unblock me from denyhosts - 212.56.100.58). >>>>> >>>>> Will do. >>>> >>>> Still seem to be blocked: >>>> >>> removed. >> >> Thanks. I'm now unblocked but my key's not working. >> >> [paul@metropolis nonfree]$ export >> CVSROOT=:ext:pghmcfc@cvs.rpmfusion.org:/cvs/nonfree >> [paul@metropolis nonfree]$ export CVS_RSH=ssh >> [paul@metropolis nonfree]$ cvs co common >> Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-with-mic). >> cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages >> if >> any) >> >> My ssh key in RPM Fusion FAS is the same as my ssh key in Fedora FAS, >> which >> works OK. > > Make sure your known_hosts file is cleaned up from rpmfusion hosts id and > retry. Same again: [paul@metropolis nonfree]$ export CVSROOT=:ext:pghmcfc@cvs.rpmfusion.org:/cvs/nonfree [paul@metropolis nonfree]$ export CVS_RSH=ssh [paul@metropolis nonfree]$ cvs co common The authenticity of host 'cvs.rpmfusion.org (195.10.6.64)' can't be established. RSA key fingerprint is c8:4c:e4:26:9d:08:98:51:07:60:b9:bc:64:ba:4c:f5. Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes Warning: Permanently added 'cvs.rpmfusion.org,195.10.6.64' (RSA) to the list of known hosts. Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-with-mic). cvs [checkout aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) I'm probably one try away from being denyhost-ed again...

Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > On 25.11.2008 12:57, Paul Howarth wrote: >> Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >>> On 25.11.2008 11:48, Paul Howarth wrote: >>>> Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >>>>> On 24.11.2008 15:38, Paul Howarth wrote: >>>>>> Orion Poplawski wrote: >>>>>>> On Sun, November 23, 2008 8:56 am, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >>>>>>>> On 23.11.2008 16:16, Orion Poplawski wrote: >>>> I did struggle to find a comprehensive list of what's available >>>> though - is there a repoview somewhere? If there is, I think it >>>> would be worth adding a link to it >>>> from the wiki somewhere that casual browsers might find it. >>> Yeah, as mentioned some minutes ago in >>> http://lists.rpmfusion.org/pipermail/rpmfusion-developers/2008-November/0... >>> There is a lot of things that need improvement. Our docs are one area >>> where we really suck. >> OK, I'll try to fix things where I see them; I trust there are no ACL >> restrictions like (parts of) the Fedora wiki? > No, the Wiki is open to all users that created an account. I created a PackageList page with links to the repoview index pages for each repo.

Some things I noticed: 1. Repoview for F10 says it's "Development" rather than "Fedora 10"

2. The updates repos for Fedora 10 and EL5 are empty and don't have repoview indexes. Does repoview not behave sanely in empty repos?

3. The main release repos for Fedora 8, Fedora 9, and EL5 are empty, with all of the content being in the updates repos. Is this ever likely to change?

>> (and unblock me from denyhosts - 212.56.100.58). > Will do. Still seem to be blocked:

On 21.11.2008 22:45, Orion Poplawski wrote:

> transcode is going to depend on a lot... It's not that bad afaics: * transcode needs libdvdread-devel as BR. We are waiting for that to show up in EPEL for some weeks now. Dominik, Rdieter, what the latest status? We really need to get this solved...

Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Sunday, 23 November 2008 at 12:44, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> On 21.11.2008 22:45, Orion Poplawski wrote: > [...] >>> transcode is going to depend on a lot... >> It's not that bad afaics: >> >> * transcode needs libdvdread-devel as BR. We are waiting for that to >> show up in EPEL for some weeks now. Dominik, Rdieter, what the latest >> status? We really need to get this solved... > > Well, someone (I don't remember who) didn't want me to push > libdvdread-4.1.3 > to EPEL until RPMForge agrees to ship it too. I tried to address some of > Dag's > concerns on their packager's list, but there have been no replies in > that > thread for over three weeks. Someone = me. ") I had hoped to avoid inducing dep breakage between repos, but we've stated our case, and the others seem to have rejected it, for now. So, it seems we (epsl vs dag/atrpms) mostly agree to disagree at this point. I'm ok with moving forward with the newer libdvdread/libdvdnav in EPEL. I'll give the other repos a heads-up to expect that soon (for better or worse).

* transcode needs ImageMagick-devel as BR. That is not yet in EPEL. Orion, could you take care of that?

* transcode needs mjpegtools-devel; two problems: ** mjpegtools again requires SDL_gfx as BR, which is branched, but not built in EPEL. I filed a bug some minutes ago: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=472678

** mjpegtools needs a owner for RPM Fusions EL branch. Orion, would you be willing to take care of that?

Further please note that David Juran (transcode maintainer in RPM Fusion) said he wanted to take care of all his packages for EL as well, "as long as the dependencies are there": http://lists.rpmfusion.org/pipermail/rpmfusion-developers/2008-August/000... Orion, so getting the dependencies into EPEL/RPM Fusion might be all you need to do ;-) But maybe you want to become co-maintainer for EL?

On Thu, 2008-11-27 at 22:46 -0700, Orion Poplawski wrote: > On Sun, November 23, 2008 4:44 am, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > >> * transcode needs ImageMagick-devel as BR. That is not yet in EPEL. >> Orion, could you take care of that? >> > ImageMagick is in the base, but an old version. > And I don't think there is anything wrong with the old version, it's just that the newer version split up libMagick into libMagicWand and libMagicCore. And I was too lazy to do a patch that detected which variant was installed so I patched transcode to use the new naming scheme and put in a requirement for it. If you drop both the requirement and the patch, it should work with the old version (-:

On Thu, November 27, 2008 10:46 pm, Orion Poplawski wrote: > On Sun, November 23, 2008 4:44 am, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > >> Further please note that David Juran (transcode maintainer in RPM >> Fusion) said he wanted to take care of all his packages for EL as well, >> "as long as the dependencies are there": >> http://lists.rpmfusion.org/pipermail/rpmfusion-developers/2008-August/000... >> >> Orion, so getting the dependencies into EPEL/RPM Fusion might be all you >> need to do ;-) But maybe you want to become co-maintainer for EL? > Happy to be. Okay, I've got a version of transcode 1.0.7 that builds on EL-5, but it doesn't look like I'm yet a co-maintainer: **** Access denied: orion is not in ACL for rpms/transcode/EL-5 Not sure how that gets handled....