Hi All, Just a quick note to those who it concerns that Dribble is now frozen and no new updates or packages will be permitted there. Most contributors are migrating their packages to RPM Fusion, including most of mine. Thanks very much and I wish RPM Fusion the best of luck.

Xavier Lamien wrote: > 2008/5/4 Ian Chapman <packages(a)amiga-hardware.com&gt;: > > Hi All, > > > > Just a quick note to those who it concerns that Dribble is now frozen > > and > > no new updates or packages will be permitted there. Most contributors > > are > > migrating their packages to RPM Fusion, including most of mine. Thanks > > very > > much and I wish RPM Fusion the best of luck. > > > > > Thanks a lot Ian, > > I think dribble will be the first to merge in next couple of days, as we > have a clean frozen version of packages set. > > Hans give a signal for cvssync. > > Xavier, We (Dribble) don't have a CVS, given the low package count and churn we've always been passing Ian srpms to build. So in order to get dribble's packages into rpmfusion cvs / look a side, someone would need to go to: http://dribble.org.uk/listrpms4.html Create cvs modules for all srpms listed there and then use cvs-import on the srpms linked from there to populate the cvs modules. Owners for the modules can be found here: http://rpmfusion.org/InitialPackageMerge But I guess all owners first need to have a FAS account, so maybe now would be a good moment to send a mail to the list asking everyone to create a FAS account? Hmm, I just realized that creating cvs modules isn't that easy because we first need to decide on a package for package base wether it goes to non-free or free. So what are the rules for free? I would like to suggest the following: "free: anything of which all components are under a license which is listed as good on: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing Notice that free fully follows this webpage except that chapter 6 "Software Types" is ignored. Notice that anything depending upon anything in non-free must be in non-free itself." Can everyone live with this? If we can agree this is the rule for the non-free free split, then I can make a list of which packages in dribble should go where.

2008/5/5 Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede(a)hhs.nl&gt;: > Xavier Lamien wrote: > >> 2008/5/4 Ian Chapman <packages(a)amiga-hardware.com&gt;: >> >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Just a quick note to those who it concerns that Dribble is now frozen > and >>> no new updates or packages will be permitted there. Most contributors > are >>> migrating their packages to RPM Fusion, including most of mine. Thanks > very >>> much and I wish RPM Fusion the best of luck. >>> >>> >> Thanks a lot Ian, >> >> I think dribble will be the first to merge in next couple of days, as we >> have a clean frozen version of packages set. >> >> Hans give a signal for cvssync. >> >> > Xavier, > > We (Dribble) don't have a CVS, given the low package count and churn we've > always been passing Ian srpms to build. > > So in order to get dribble's packages into rpmfusion cvs / look a side, > someone would need to go to: > http://dribble.org.uk/listrpms4.html > > Create cvs modules for all srpms listed there and then use cvs-import on > the srpms linked from there to populate the cvs modules. > > Owners for the modules can be found here: > http://rpmfusion.org/InitialPackageMerge > > But I guess all owners first need to have a FAS account, so maybe now would > be a good moment to send a mail to the list asking everyone to create a FAS > account? > > Hmm, I just realized that creating cvs modules isn't that easy because we > first need to decide on a package for package base wether it goes to > non-free or free. > > So what are the rules for free? I would like to suggest the following: > > "free: anything of which all components are under a license which is listed > as > good on: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing > > Notice that free fully follows this webpage except that chapter 6 > "Software > Types" is ignored. > > Notice that anything depending upon anything in non-free must be in > non-free > itself." > > Can everyone live with this? If we can agree this is the rule for the > non-free free split, then I can make a list of which packages in dribble > should go where. Hi ! I agree from this. I just want to notice that "-nonfree" expects at least the package to be redistributable.

I don't expect dribble have such packages. But amr{nb,wb} codecs are ( altought opensource - we even cannot retristribute the sources). For such cases i guess it would be desirable to have nosrc.rpm in the SRPMS non-free section.

Also all packages that can go to Fedora shouldn't be allowed in RPM Fusion. ( I have submitted some perl package freshrpms use for dvdrip at least) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=444733 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=444744 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=444745 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=444755

KH KH wrote: > 2008/5/5 Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede(a)hhs.nl&gt;: > > > Xavier Lamien wrote: > > > > 2008/5/4 Ian Chapman <packages(a)amiga-hardware.com&gt;: > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > Just a quick note to those who it concerns that Dribble is now > > > > frozen > > > > > > > and > > > > > no new updates or packages will be permitted there. Most > > > > contributors > > > > > > > are > > > > > migrating their packages to RPM Fusion, including most of mine. > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > very > > > > > much and I wish RPM Fusion the best of luck. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot Ian, > > > > > > I think dribble will be the first to merge in next couple of days, > > > as we > > > have a clean frozen version of packages set. > > > > > > Hans give a signal for cvssync. > > > > > > > > > Xavier, > > > > We (Dribble) don't have a CVS, given the low package count and churn > > we've > > always been passing Ian srpms to build. > > > > So in order to get dribble's packages into rpmfusion cvs / look a > > side, > > someone would need to go to: > > http://dribble.org.uk/listrpms4.html > > > > Create cvs modules for all srpms listed there and then use cvs-import > > on > > the srpms linked from there to populate the cvs modules. > > > > Owners for the modules can be found here: > > http://rpmfusion.org/InitialPackageMerge > > > > But I guess all owners first need to have a FAS account, so maybe now > > would > > be a good moment to send a mail to the list asking everyone to create > > a FAS > > account? > > > > Hmm, I just realized that creating cvs modules isn't that easy > > because we > > first need to decide on a package for package base wether it goes to > > non-free or free. > > > > So what are the rules for free? I would like to suggest the > > following: > > > > "free: anything of which all components are under a license which is > > listed > > as > > good on: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing > > > > Notice that free fully follows this webpage except that chapter 6 > > "Software > > Types" is ignored. > > > > Notice that anything depending upon anything in non-free must be in > > non-free > > itself." > > > > Can everyone live with this? If we can agree this is the rule for the > > non-free free split, then I can make a list of which packages in > > dribble > > should go where. > > > > Hi ! > I agree from this. I just want to notice that "-nonfree" expects at > least the package to be redistributable. > Agree, rules for non-free: "non-free: the package must be redistributable" I don't expect dribble have such packages. But amr{nb,wb} codecs are > ( altought opensource - we even cannot retristribute the sources). > For such cases i guess it would be desirable to have nosrc.rpm in the > SRPMS non-free section. > But how would those then get build? I would prefer normal src.rpm's, which then do a wget of the sources during the build, so the .src.rpm will most likely only contain an .spec file, .nosrc.rpm's where the pieces have to be pieced together manually before building, are no good, as we want all packages to be automatically buildable from cvs + lookaside by plague.

Also all packages that can go to Fedora shouldn't be allowed in RPM > Fusion. > ( I have submitted some perl package freshrpms use for dvdrip at least) > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=444733 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=444744 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=444745 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=444755 > Yes anything which can go to Fedora should be in Fedora, see my simcoupe work of late for example. Regards, Hans

2008/5/5 Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede(a)hhs.nl&gt;: > Hi All, > > So I've done a quick audit of the license of all dribble packages (what > fun), here is a list of all dribble packages and where they should go: > > free: > arcem > bubbros > desmume > dvd-slideshow > DVDAuthorWizard > DVDRipOMatic > fakenes > fceultra > gcube > gfceu > gnuboy > KmPg2 > lxdream > mamory > megamario > mupen64 > nes_ntsc > nestopia > osmose (note contains non free not used sourcefiles in the z80_disasm dir) > pangzero > plus4emu > scottfree > sms_ntsc > snes_ntsc > stella > wormsofprey > wormsofprey-data > xroar > yabause > zsnes > > > non-free: > dega-sdl > dgen-sdl > doc > e-uae (non-free due to libcapsimage use) > Frodo > fuse-emulator-roms > gens > gnome-video-arcade > lha > libcapsimage > mednafen > mupen64-ricevideo > qmc2 > raine > sdlmame > sdlmame-data > sdlmame-data-artwork > sdlmame-data-roms > sdlmame-data-samples > sdlmess > sidplay-libs > sl > smc > smc-music > uade (included amiga asm code not all free) > vice > xcpc > yapeSDL > > > drop: > dribble-release > SAASound (moved to Fedora) > simcoupe (moved to Fedora) > psemu-base (unused) > > Hm... i see that i'll have fun on cvssync this afternoon. Thanks hans for this quick audit. Is there someone who can tell me if the package_merger page is up to date ?