On 2014-08-01 07:03, Richard Shaw wrote: 

> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Brady, Mike <mike.brady at devnull.net.nz> wrote:
> 
>> Are there any plans for Centos/RHEL 6/7 0.27.x packages?
> 
> That's currently not possible because the version of QT in RHEL is too old and the version in EPEL (QT5) is too new. 
Since RPM Fusion has a policy not to replace currently shipping packages we're at an impasse. 
> 
> Once RPM Fusion branches for EPEL 7 I plan to support the package there though. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Richard

Thanks Richard. I suspected that that may have been the case. My plan
for my next build was to go with Centos 7 anyway so that works for me.

Richard,

While what you said is not "incorrect". I want to add some things. My opinions are directed towards RPMfusion and all members with decision making power
for building packages, not just you.

 My uncle Doodle used to say:

 "Opinions are like *ss#holes, Everybody has one!".

Like it or not.
I don't come out from behind my rock too much.
But when I do, I have some things to say and this is my opinion!

>That's currently not possible because the version of QT in RHEL is too old and the version in EPEL (QT5) is too new.

*Don't use qt5 with EL6. It's not binary compatible directly with el6's qt4-6.2 but qt4-4.8.X is. Someone told you wrong to try it.




*Use this repo instead. Created by SIC from Fedora # This was built isolated in /opt, I have rebuilt it against 4.8.5 with Axels' reference system for qt47.
https://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/sic/qt48/epel-qt48.repo



You have to force it(unless you rebuilt it) because mythtv packages from Axel and RPMf are built against the qt*-* and not qt48-qt-*.
My qt48-4.8.5 spec/build that I upgraded from (sics) previous great work on this subject will be turned over to Axel with a matter of days. And then it will 



start populating the el6 repos as things always have. Axel's obviously busy or he'd had make this work already and we wouldn't be discussing it.
It's my opinion that Axel was ok with having a couple small rpm issues in qt47(which is why it was in atrpms-testing)



I'm sure Axel probably expected the Open Source Community and peers like us to fix that and contribute and not just 
try and fix it and NOT contribute, and then complain.

Axels "vacations" to me ...have proven that we need him around to keep the flow moving.



I'm no Axel, but I am one of his biggest fans.

Back on point:

>Since RPM Fusion has a policy not to replace currently shipping packages we're at an impasse!



RPMfusion already has other qt4's in the RPMfusion repo Richard. As you know, they just don't work(very well), even though they sit there...like they might.
Fact is:
Axels 4.7 worked. Up to the change upstream in mythtv.


 It just needed a few minor things addressed, which has been done.
 This and Sics work are the basis for a now working qt48 kit on el6. Without any openGL or Webkit or slow mythweb related issues.



>Since RPM Fusion has a policy not to replace currently shipping packages we're at an impasse.

I'm sorry again Richard. ....
No direct disrespect intended as I like you and all the peps at RPMfusion and Axels group. Even though I only know you by reading posts/notes from your work!



In all fairness,   

This is by choice or technical decision based solely on the decision making processes' of the past and is now technically a MOOT point.

If any of you don't believe me or you or anyone at RPMf want to engage. 


Email me. 
I will not debate these facts and my personal opinions no more than this on this point here.
Lets fix what needs to be fixed as FSF loving people and drop the non-relevant explanations from the past.





I'm not religious, but here's My philosophy, Regarding the ongoing pissing contest between RPMf and ATrpms.
It's not helping either or both sides.
Consider this:


I got a big ego and I think highly of myself ...but Stubbornness and Rigidity is my default nature! 
I'm faulty. I have made mistakes. I'm not perfect. I have done things I'm not proud of. I have even bullied and been bullied.


I value intelligence though I am sometimes inconsistent and contradictory. I value respect, even though I have disrespected many.

These things do not make, nor define me though, because I adapt and continue to learn, instead of becoming rigid and more stubborn.




We are all human!
Lets put it all together and just make it work. RPMf and ATrpms can both PISS very, very , very far. We really  don't need to prove it.



Sincerely,
Kelsie Flynn
Kelsie@elmythos.org


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