Harmony

Lubomir Kundrak lkundrak at redhat.com
Thu Dec 6 19:44:56 CET 2007


On Thu, 2007-12-06 at 17:51 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> On 06.12.2007 17:09, Richi Plana wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-12-06 at 16:10 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> >> On 30.11.2007 16:21, Richi Plana wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 09:20 +0100, Pix wrote:
> >>>> I understood that z00dax of centos.karan.org was in RPM repo.
> >>>> Funny thing is i'm hosting centos.karan.org just on the same server as
> >>>> rpm.livna.org and upcoming rpmfusion repo :)
> >>>> He's a good m8, if you want i can ask him to join/talk with us ?
> >>> That'd be great! 
> >> In case anybody wonders: Pix tried that:
> >> [...]
> >> 14:23:26 <@     z00dax> | rpmfusion is a waste of time :D
> >> [...]
> >> 14:23:39 <@     z00dax> | its just an extention of the stupid fedora mindset
> >> [...]
> >> 14:23:52 <@     z00dax> | so, as far as i am concerned, its a waste of time
> >> [...]
> >> This is a free world and forking or having multiple concurrent projects
> >> doing similar things is IMHO a important thing in the open source world
> >> and nothing bad.
> >> So I'd say let's respect z00dax's and other peoples opinions (¹) and doings 
> >> and continue with RPM Fusion as planed (²). Maybe sooner or later 
> >> a cooperation evolves and a bit later there is another merger.
> > I agree, but could someone list down what they think is "stupid" of the
> > "Fedora mindset"?
> 
> Not sure if asking that here will lead to anything.
> 
> > I've made my choice to stick it out with Fedora, but
> > after dwelling a while in the fedora-devel mailing list, I have to admit
> > that I DO have my share of misgivings, some of which, hopefully, will be
> > mitigated by third-party repos like RPM Fusion. Anyway, the point is, no
> > one improves who's not willing to admit inadequacies or failings. If
> > there's any point to z00dax's "stupid" comment, I'd like to hear it.
> 
> FYI, part of the problem is likely EPEL, the Fedora project where Fedora
> rebuild Fedora packages for RHEL. We offer them also for users of
> derivates like CentOS -- some people afaics dislike that because we
> entered their territory without cooperating with (for example) CentOS
> extras. In fact that is what we tried, but it failed due to errors on
> both sides. Then came the repotag debate in EPEL, which made things even
> worse (that's a long story short).
> 
> CU
> knurd
> 
> Cu
> knurd
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Lubomir Kundrak (Red Hat Security Response Team)



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