Import plans for freshrpms packages; please review!

[Orcan Ogetbil]

--- On Fri, 10/17/08, Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl> wrote:

> From: Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede at hhs.nl>
> Subject: Re: Import plans for freshrpms packages; please review!
> To: orcanbahri at yahoo.com, "RPM Fusion developers discussion list" <rpmfusion-developers at lists.rpmfusion.org>
> Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 6:02 AM
> Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> > --- On Fri, 10/17/08, Matthias Saou
> <thias at spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.egg.and.spam.freshrpms.net>
> wrote:
> > 
> >> From: Matthias Saou
> <thias at spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.egg.and.spam.freshrpms.net>
> >> Subject: Re: Import plans for freshrpms packages;
> please review!
> >> To: "Thorsten Leemhuis"
> <fedora at leemhuis.info>
> >> Cc: "RPM Fusion developers discussion
> list" <rpmfusion-developers at lists.rpmfusion.org>
> >> Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 5:04 AM
> >> Hi everyone,
> > 
> > -cut-
> > 
> >>> xmms-aac
> >>> -> import
> >>>
> >>> xmms-wma
> >>> -> import
> >> Hmmm, gtk1 xmms should die. This is only
> encouraging it to
> >> stick
> >> around ;-)
> >>
> > 
> > I disagree with you at an utmost level. I still think
> that it is one of the top audio players, if not the best
> one. If no one wants to maintain it I will take these
> plugins over without hesitation.
> > 
> 
> Have you tried audacious ?
> 
> Audacious is xmms, with the UI ported to gtk2 and a still
> alive upstream which 
> adds new features like support for various audio formats
> including wma and aac 
> on a regular basis.
> 
> Your time would be much better spend on fixing any features
> you miss in 
> audacious then on keeping xmms on live support. AFAIK the
> only thing missing 
> are some plugins which have not yet been ported to
> audacious, most have been 
> and porting them isn't that hard, the API is mostly
> unchanged.
> 
Who said xmms is dead? They made a release last year and also we had a very recent update in Fedora that is from their cvs.


I know audacious. I have used it for a while. While the API is mostly unchanged it is not totally unchanged. I even supported them in my superkaramba theme (soundmania) until they made those little changes in their API that rendered xmmsctrl useless.

I am sure they had updates and by now they are probably dbus-friendly but over the years I became a man of tradition. Xmms does whatever I want whenever I want with 0 problems. Why should I abandon it? It is like my radio left to me by grandfather that is still fully functional.

I also shouldn't forget to mention that I know people around me who still use it. My personal opinion is it is better to spend time supporting/developing other great audio players (such as amarok) than in xmms clones. 

> Regards,
> 
> Hans

Cheers,
-oget

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