PLEASE READ: Import status livna, work from maintainers required

Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski dominik at greysector.net
Mon Sep 1 18:09:23 CEST 2008


On Monday, 01 September 2008 at 14:48, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> On 21.08.2008 18:43, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> >On Monday, 11 August 2008 at 07:01, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> >>About the other package. I'm not going to touch that package ever in RPM 
> >>Fusion and I more and more agree with those people that asked not to 
> >>ship it. So IOW: Somebody else needs to branch, import, build and sign 
> >>that package.
> >I don't know if you read my reply on IRC, but strictly speaking, you
> >have already done that by branching, importing and signing MPlayer
> >builds. MPlayer contains a copy of libdvdcss.
> 
> I know, but the source here in Germany is not the problem afaik; OTHO 
> distributing an binary app or lib that is directly able to circumvent 
> css is afaik.

I can't comment on that. AFAIK it is not illegal in Poland, unless
there's a EU-wide legislation that makes it illegal.

> > [...]
> >>Can't remember, but I think so; it iirc uses the package in question 
> >>dynamically if needed.
> >Indeed, but users still need to get that package from somewhere.
> 
> And I'd say that "somewhere" is the better place (¹) as having a 
> compiled libdvdcss in the repos in my humble opinion might be 
> problematic for these reasons:
> 
>  * we already lost one major long-term Fedora and Livna contributor 
> from Europe because he feared to contribute to a repo that might contain 
> libdvdcss.
> 
>  * There are likely a lot more Fedora contributors that won't 
> contribute to RPM Fusion (livna showed that in the past) as long as 
> there is a package like libdvdcss in the repos, as libdvdcss is one 
> level more problematic that all the other stuff we have.
> 
>  * I hope that we in the long term can cooperate with proprietary 
> software companies to get their software (things like flash, adobe 
> reader and similar stuff) into our nonfree repo; that will liekly never 
> work if we have libdvdcss in the repo
> 
>  * it could create trouble for people mirroring or using RPM Fusion; 
> thus some people will decide not to mirror or use RPM Fusion

Granted, though the fear of libdvdcss is hopefully unfounded and based
on the confusion with libcss which used a CSS key extracted from one
of the commercial players to unlock DVDs.

I still want to maintain libdvdcss and have no problems doing it.

Regards,
R.

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