[Bug 679] Review request: HandBrake - Multithreaded DVD to MPEG-4 converter

[RPM Fusion Bugzilla]

http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=679





--- Comment #14 from Bernard Johnson <bjohnson at symetrix.com>  2009-11-15 23:30:14 ---
(In reply to comment #12)
> (In reply to comment #11)
> > After a detailed IRC discussion with the authors of HandBrake, it is their wish
> > that if HandBrake can not be compiled completely with the bundled libraries
> > (all of them), that it not be submitted to the rpmfusion, or any other repo.
> 
> That is very unfriendly of them. Don't they wish to cooperate with downstream
> distributors?

It seemed to come down to:
Lack of control over the changes to libraries they thought were important =
increased support requests to their site for "buggy packaging".

Even if we were able to get all patches upstreamed, they insisted that we
should be bundling the libraries so that nobody can make updates or patches
that break HandBrake.  Personally, I think this is paranoid, as we know that
when ABIs are respected, it's not likely random breakage will happen.  However,
the recent updates to gtk2 broke the stable 0.9.3 version (their Ubuntu build
and my test build), which was cited as an example.  I know that things like
this are extremely rare though.

Although they have release versions, I don't know if I'd go so far as to call
them "stable" since many times the bug reporters are asked to upgrade to trunk
and then retry the bug.

> Actually you could still do it without their approval. After all, the licence
> allows you to do that.

Yes, I know, but it would still cause a burden for them.  Also things like
Help->Guide direct to their wiki page for help.  This page does/will contain
*current* version information, not necessarily the version in repositories. 
This would be a problem for both us and them.

If I was able to completely decouple from the upstream support, I would look
into it again.

> So did they just send patches upstream or did they actually work with upstream
> to have them applied to upstream source trees?

I don't know, I suspect a little of both. My understanding is that at least one
upstream has not changed in years - that makes it hard to get patches in :)

(In reply to comment #13)
> **especially** considering their official stable release
> has no Linux packages in their download section.

Their plan is to provide f-12 and Ubuntu binaries at next release.

Btw, in case I have mis-interpreted anything, the irc log starts here:
http://handbrake.fr/irclogs/handbrake/handbrake20091115_pg2.html.  Skip down to
0x100 talking.


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