sdlmame-data-roms missing on F17

[Sérgio Basto]

On Dom, 2012-07-15 at 19:57 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: 
> On Dom, 2012-07-15 at 20:23 +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote: 
> > W dniu 15.07.2012 16:12, Sérgio Basto pisze:
> > > On Dom, 2012-07-15 at 12:24 +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote: 
> > >> W dniu 08.07.2012 22:43, Sérgio Basto pisze:
> > >>> On Sáb, 2012-07-07 at 08:44 +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote: 
> > >>>> W dniu 04.07.2012 19:28, Sérgio Basto pisze:
> > >>>>> On Ter, 2012-07-03 at 18:24 +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote:
> > >>>>>> To me packaging this file makes about as much sense as packaging big
> > >>>>>> buck bunny to test media players. If you would like to have this
> > >>>>>> package
> > >>>>>> in the repos, feel free to unretire it and take ownership. 
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Some players indeed pack a little sample (Microsoft always pack some
> > >>>>> images) but is not same thing, normally we don't have roms in our
> > >>>>> computer. 
> > >>>>> After think about, I prefer include the sample rom  in sdlmame-data,
> > >>>>> will give us much _less_ work. I might join as co-mainteiner of
> > >>>>> sdlmame-data
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> we can talk about this on IRC #rpmfusion , if you like .
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks, 
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> I guess this can be done if it is only the robby rom, the other ones
> > >>>> available at mamedev.org need to be downloaded from there IIRC.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'll look into it during the next update.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for attending my request, I send in attached my proposal patch
> > >>> for sdlmame-data.spec, which is based on
> > >>> rpmfusion/sdlmame-data-roms/F-16/sdlmame-data-roms.spec 
> > >>>
> > >>> We can get quickly robby rom and sdlmame-data-roms-README.ROMs with:
> > >>> yumdownloader --source sdlmame-data-roms --releasever=16
> > >>> rpm -ivh sdlmame-data-roms-0120-3.fc11.src.rpm
> > >>> mv ~/rpmbuild/SOURCES/sdlmame-data-roms-README.ROMs sdlmame-data/devel
> > >>> mv ~/rpmbuild/SOURCES/robby.zip sdlmame-data/devel
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>>
> > >> I looked into it and it seems robby needs to be downloaded from the
> > >> mamedev.org website exactly as the others:
> > >>
> > >> ROMs for Free Download
> > >>
> > >> Thanks to the generosity of some of the original creators of the classic
> > >> games that MAME® can emulate, several games have been released for free,
> > >> non-commercial use. It is our hope that in the future, we will be able
> > >> to add more games to this list.
> > >>
> > >> Note: The ROMs on these pages have been approved for free distribution
> > >> on this site only. Just because they are available here for download
> > >> does not entitle you to put them on your own site, include them with
> > >> your own distributions of MAME, or bundle them with your software,
> > >> cabinet, or other item. To do that, you must obtain permission from the
> > >> original owners.
> > > 
> > > I think, all rooms except "Robby Roto", based on
> > > sdlmame-data-roms-README.ROMs, you may read it on sdlmame-data-roms
> > > branch F-16, sdlmame-data-roms/F-16/sdlmame-data-roms-README.ROMs
> > > "Due to copyright, we are only able to provide the Robby Roto romset, as
> > > it is the only one in the Public Domain.
> > > 
> > > There are some other romsets available for non-commercial use here:
> > > http://www.mamedev.org/roms/
> > > 
> > > When it comes to others, you need to dump them from your PCBs."
> > > 
> > > I can guarantee, that rom "Robby Roto" was distributed for several years
> > > in rpmfusion and I'm not aware of any problem.
> > > 
> > > Best,
> > > 
> > Well, I wrote that file 
> 
> I'm only based on that, if you wrote it, you should know better than me.
> what can I say ?
> I don't understand if was shipped on F16 , Why shouldn't be on F17 ? 
> but what you decide is good to me ..., I just tried improve rpmfusion. 

Just to clarify my point of view, if you have (new) legal concerns with
the sample rom , we can drop it , you decided, I don't mind. 
If I did the package, I would just make a copy of what was already done.


> > based on an email sent to Aaron Giles (he was
> > MAME maintainer back in 2007). Maybe the copyright was different back
> > then, or he was mistaken. Below is what the readme included in robby.zip
> > says, it is definitely not public domain.
> > 
> > From: Jay Fenton <jay at fentonia.com>
> > To: gridle at mbnet.fi
> > Date: 5.6.1999 2:11
> > Subject: Robby Roto ROM released for free non-commercial uses by
> > author/owner
> 
> "Robby Roto ROM released for free (non-commercial uses)" 
> 
> 
> > I used to write games for Bally/Midway in the 1970's and early
> > 1980's. One of my less successful titles was Robby Roto.
> > My contract with Midway specified that after shipments dropped
> > below a certain level, that the rights to this game reverted to me.
> > Needless to say, this has happened.
> > 
> > I notice that Robby Roto is available on a few download sites for
> > MAME. I would like the world to know that as the legal owner,
> > the ROM images from Robby Roto are hearby declared free for
> > unlimited non-commercial duplication and play by MAME users.
> > 
> > -- Jay Fenton
> 

-- 
Sérgio M. B.