Hosting the live cd

Rahul Sundaram metherid at
Sun Oct 12 12:29:44 CEST 2008

Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> But the most well known linux distribution that gets a lot of public 
> attention gets away with it, so with similar tricks it might be 
> possible for us as well. But that would need closer evaluation and is 
> a complicated different topic we should ignore for now.
No distribution ships proprietary drivers bundled and linked by default 
(like a live cd would) to the best of my knowledge. If you let the user 
make the final step, then it is different.  I am not sure which 
distribution you are referring to here.  I suspect you are talking about 
Ubuntu. In that case, you should look more closely at what they are 
doing. I don't want to play dirty tricks on a already troublesome legal 
grey area even if we can get away with it.
> Anyway, we should stop this discussion and do something productive. 
Sounds like a good idea to me :-)

> So here are my suggestions:
> (a) use "RPM Fusion" and prefix for all official spins (Just like 
> Fedora project uses the name Fedora for its spins) ; a "RPM Fusion 
> Spin" (using the kickstart file from omega as base) will be the first 
> and official spin that has both the free and nonfree repos enabled; 
> this naming scheme leaves room for other spins under the hood of RPM 
> Fusion:
>  * "RPM Fusion Free" (only free; nonfree repo not even enabled);
>  * "RPM Fusion Games" (games from Fedora, RPM Fusion free/nonfree)
>  * "RPM Fusion foo" (whatever people want to do)
> (b) just like "(a)", but only that we use "Omega" as the name for the 
> "official spin"; all others use "RPM Fusion" and prefix
> (c) Just like "(a)", but use Omega as prefix everywhere
> (d) your suggestion here
I don't think using the "spin" naming convention is a good idea for 
trademark reasons.  The new trademark guidelines for Fedora proposed at

differentiates between a spin and a remix.  If you believe, that other 
variants are going to be made available and they need to be in the same 
space (separate sub domains are a possibility), instead of a omega 
subdomain, you could setup a remix subdomain instead.   RPMFusion is 
going to be providing packages for EL distributions as well.  Someone 
might have an interest in creating a remix around that.  So to be 
specific, you will get a name like - RPMFusion spin - free repository 
for Fedora  (GNOME edition) or something like that which tends to be 
clumsy.  I am also in favour of associating Omega with the Fedora brand 
since it is the primary project after all. So in the future, we can do 
something like

* Omega - Fedora multimedia remix

The proposed more liberal rules around the secondary mark for Fedora 
remixes which I am keeping a close eye on will likely allow this 
possibility.  This is the reason I suggested the word "remix" in the 
conversation which has been accepted by Red Hat Legal.  It seems we are 
close to getting the above guidelines finalized - certainly before the 
Fedora 10 GA release.  I will apply for approval if necessary and go 
through the due process to get this done.


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