10:38 a.m.
Hi!
Just FYI, building RPM Fusion packages for EL6 is possible now. Guess
there will be a few rough edges here and there, so keep the eyes open
and report any problems.
Cu
knurd
10:51 a.m.
oh good, do you know if we have an EL-5 build system? There's no
rush, but I noticed my package in waiting status.
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora(a)leemhuis.info> wrote:
Hi!
Just FYI, building RPM Fusion packages for EL6 is possible now. Guess
there will be a few rough edges here and there, so keep the eyes open
and report any problems.
Cu
knurd
11:18 a.m.
On 28.11.2010 11:51, solarflow99 wrote:
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis
<fedora(a)leemhuis.info> wrote:
> Just FYI, building RPM Fusion packages for EL6 is possible now. Guess
> there will be a few rough edges here and there, so keep the eyes open
> and report any problems.
oh good, do you know if we have an EL-5 build system? There's no
rush, but I noticed my package in waiting status.
Note that problems in our build infrastructure (like this) are one of
the main reasons why I'm really unhappy about the state of RPM Fusion
and want to have a break (see the other mail I just sent).
This case for me boils down to: There are people that are supposed to
take care about the build infrastructure and they are obviously not
doing their work. Please ask them, not me, as I multiple times made
clear that I don't want to do the administration of our build infra. In
case you don't get satisfying results within a few days then ask me
again please and I'll see what I can do to get a EL-5 builder running again.
Cu
knurd
11:45 a.m.
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 3:18 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora(a)leemhuis.info> wrote:
On 28.11.2010 11:51, solarflow99 wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora(a)leemhuis.info>
wrote:
>> Just FYI, building RPM Fusion packages for EL6 is possible now. Guess
>> there will be a few rough edges here and there, so keep the eyes open
>> and report any problems.
> oh good, do you know if we have an EL-5 build system? There's no
> rush, but I noticed my package in waiting status.
Note that problems in our build infrastructure (like this) are one of
the main reasons why I'm really unhappy about the state of RPM Fusion
and want to have a break (see the other mail I just sent).
This case for me boils down to: There are people that are supposed to
take care about the build infrastructure and they are obviously not
doing their work. Please ask them, not me, as I multiple times made
clear that I don't want to do the administration of our build infra. In
case you don't get satisfying results within a few days then ask me
again please and I'll see what I can do to get a EL-5 builder running again.
ok, and if there's something I can help you out with just let me know,
rpmfusion has always been short staffed, so we have to do the best we
can I suppose. I'm willing to help where I can.
4:16 p.m.
On 28.11.2010 12:45, solarflow99 wrote:
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 3:18 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis
<fedora(a)leemhuis.info> wrote:
> On 28.11.2010 11:51, solarflow99 wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora(a)leemhuis.info>
wrote:
>>> Just FYI, building RPM Fusion packages for EL6 is possible now. Guess
>>> there will be a few rough edges here and there, so keep the eyes open
>>> and report any problems.
>> oh good, do you know if we have an EL-5 build system? There's no
>> rush, but I noticed my package in waiting status.
> Note that problems in our build infrastructure (like this) are one of
> the main reasons why I'm really unhappy about the state of RPM Fusion
> and want to have a break (see the other mail I just sent).
> This case for me boils down to: There are people that are supposed to
> take care about the build infrastructure and they are obviously not
> doing their work. Please ask them, not me, as I multiple times made
> clear that I don't want to do the administration of our build infra. In
> case you don't get satisfying results within a few days then ask me
> again please and I'll see what I can do to get a EL-5 builder running again.
ok, and if there's something I can help you out with just let me know,
rpmfusion has always been short staffed, so we have to do the best we
can I suppose. I'm willing to help where I can.
The direct problems at hand: The only x86 builder that is left has no
local CentOS/RHEL mirror; the admin of this machine might be able to
create one in the local net on the machine where other repos are
mirrored. Then all what is needed is creating a few config files, which
can be done in ~15 minutes or so. I can do that, but as I indicated
already: I'd say it's the job of our infra group and would prefer to
hear from them first before I once again step on their toes and do their
work (which I often did in the past and which might be more harmful then
helpful; don't know)
Some of the overall RPM Fusion problem we are facing in this area:
* where did the other x86 builders we had go? Seems they simply got
lost over time
* you and others iirc applied to help with infra work earlier; why
haven't you got access and/or instructions?
* seems there is not much interest in the el5 repo; some packages were
build, but nobody really cared and for a lot of people it seems the el5
branch was "fire once and forget" (part of the problem:
ownership/responsibilities were not clearly solved and owners.list for
el is wrong in some places); that's one of the reasons why I left all
the packages in testing
CU
knurd
3:21 a.m.
On Nov 28, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
On 28.11.2010 12:45, solarflow99 wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 3:18 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora(a)leemhuis.info>
wrote:
>> On 28.11.2010 11:51, solarflow99 wrote:
>>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis
<fedora(a)leemhuis.info> wrote:
>>>> Just FYI, building RPM Fusion packages for EL6 is possible now. Guess
>>>> there will be a few rough edges here and there, so keep the eyes open
>>>> and report any problems.
>>> oh good, do you know if we have an EL-5 build system? There's no
>>> rush, but I noticed my package in waiting status.
>> Note that problems in our build infrastructure (like this) are one of
>> the main reasons why I'm really unhappy about the state of RPM Fusion
>> and want to have a break (see the other mail I just sent).
>> This case for me boils down to: There are people that are supposed to
>> take care about the build infrastructure and they are obviously not
>> doing their work. Please ask them, not me, as I multiple times made
>> clear that I don't want to do the administration of our build infra. In
>> case you don't get satisfying results within a few days then ask me
>> again please and I'll see what I can do to get a EL-5 builder running again.
> ok, and if there's something I can help you out with just let me know,
> rpmfusion has always been short staffed, so we have to do the best we
> can I suppose. I'm willing to help where I can.
The direct problems at hand: The only x86 builder that is left has no
local CentOS/RHEL mirror; the admin of this machine might be able to
create one in the local net on the machine where other repos are
mirrored.
Screw it, why not. I'm rsync'ing down the CentOS 5.5 trees right now.
Nb: the el6 trees on my builder are restricted to local access only,
as they're true-blue (er, red?) RHEL6 GA trees. We should switch
probably switch to CentOS 6 once its available. Also, the configs
will likely also need to point at the optional trees to pick up an
array of additional BuildReqs for a lot of things.
Then all what is needed is creating a few config files, which
can be done in ~15 minutes or so. I can do that, but as I indicated
already: I'd say it's the job of our infra group and would prefer to
hear from them first before I once again step on their toes and do their
work (which I often did in the past and which might be more harmful then
helpful; don't know)
Some of the overall RPM Fusion problem we are facing in this area:
* where did the other x86 builders we had go? Seems they simply got
lost over time
Good question. On the bright side, my builder has finally stabilized
again, after a RAM and CPU upgrade.
* you and others iirc applied to help with infra work earlier; why
haven't you got access and/or instructions?
Indeed. :(
Of course, in my case, I don't really have the time anyway, so perhaps
its better I never got access. ;)
* seems there is not much interest in the el5 repo; some packages
were
build, but nobody really cared and for a lot of people it seems the el5
branch was "fire once and forget" (part of the problem:
ownership/responsibilities were not clearly solved and owners.list for
el is wrong in some places); that's one of the reasons why I left all
the packages in testing
I know I don't give a lick about el5 (outside of work) myself, but I'm
quite interested in el6 support (all my mythtv boxen at home are slowly
being moved to el6). However, there are a few issues that still need to
be overcome -- off the top of my head, most notably, the lack of
qt-webkit support in el6 (I'm solving this with a local rebuild of the
el6 qt packages w/webkit support re-enabled, for the moment).
--
Jarod Wilson
jarod(a)wilsonet.com
7:20 p.m.
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 05:16:39PM +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
On 28.11.2010 12:45, solarflow99 wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 3:18 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora(a)leemhuis.info>
wrote:
>> On 28.11.2010 11:51, solarflow99 wrote:
>>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis
<fedora(a)leemhuis.info> wrote:
>>>> Just FYI, building RPM Fusion packages for EL6 is possible now. Guess
>>>> there will be a few rough edges here and there, so keep the eyes open
>>>> and report any problems.
>>> oh good, do you know if we have an EL-5 build system? There's no
>>> rush, but I noticed my package in waiting status.
>> Note that problems in our build infrastructure (like this) are one of
>> the main reasons why I'm really unhappy about the state of RPM Fusion
>> and want to have a break (see the other mail I just sent).
>> This case for me boils down to: There are people that are supposed to
>> take care about the build infrastructure and they are obviously not
>> doing their work. Please ask them, not me, as I multiple times made
>> clear that I don't want to do the administration of our build infra. In
>> case you don't get satisfying results within a few days then ask me
>> again please and I'll see what I can do to get a EL-5 builder running
again.
> ok, and if there's something I can help you out with just let me know,
> rpmfusion has always been short staffed, so we have to do the best we
> can I suppose. I'm willing to help where I can.
The direct problems at hand: The only x86 builder that is left has no
local CentOS/RHEL mirror; the admin of this machine might be able to
create one in the local net on the machine where other repos are
mirrored. Then all what is needed is creating a few config files, which
can be done in ~15 minutes or so. I can do that, but as I indicated
already: I'd say it's the job of our infra group and would prefer to
hear from them first before I once again step on their toes and do their
work (which I often did in the past and which might be more harmful then
helpful; don't know)
Some of the overall RPM Fusion problem we are facing in this area:
* where did the other x86 builders we had go? Seems they simply got
lost over time
* you and others iirc applied to help with infra work earlier; why
haven't you got access and/or instructions?
* seems there is not much interest in the el5 repo; some packages were
build, but nobody really cared and for a lot of people it seems the el5
branch was "fire once and forget" (part of the problem:
ownership/responsibilities were not clearly solved and owners.list for
el is wrong in some places); that's one of the reasons why I left all
the packages in testing
CU
knurd
I too offered to setup a build machine. The only thing I don't have
equipment for are the PPC builds. But alas, I too have not received any
guidance how, specifically, I can help.
Jack Neely
--
Jack Neely <jjneely(a)ncsu.edu>
Linux Czar, OIT Campus Linux Services
Office of Information Technology, NC State University
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7:48 p.m.
On 30.11.2010 20:20, Jack Neely wrote:
But alas, I too have not received any guidance how, specifically, I
can help.
As I said, things like that are one of the reasons why I chose to take a
break. Yes, I could go wild and hand out permissions to systems (I think
I have access nearly everywhere), but we have a "infrastructure lead"
that IMHO is supposed to coordinate things like that to avoid chaos :-/
Cu
knurd
7:51 p.m.
On 30.11.2010 04:21, Jarod Wilson wrote:
On Nov 28, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> On 28.11.2010 12:45, solarflow99 wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 3:18 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora(a)leemhuis.info>
wrote:
>>> On 28.11.2010 11:51, solarflow99 wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis
<fedora(a)leemhuis.info> wrote:
>>>>> Just FYI, building RPM Fusion packages for EL6 is possible now.
Guess
>>>>> there will be a few rough edges here and there, so keep the eyes
open
>>>>> and report any problems.
>>>> oh good, do you know if we have an EL-5 build system? There's no
>>>> rush, but I noticed my package in waiting status.
>>> Note that problems in our build infrastructure (like this) are one of
>>> the main reasons why I'm really unhappy about the state of RPM Fusion
>>> and want to have a break (see the other mail I just sent).
>>> This case for me boils down to: There are people that are supposed to
>>> take care about the build infrastructure and they are obviously not
>>> doing their work. Please ask them, not me, as I multiple times made
>>> clear that I don't want to do the administration of our build infra. In
>>> case you don't get satisfying results within a few days then ask me
>>> again please and I'll see what I can do to get a EL-5 builder running
again.
>> ok, and if there's something I can help you out with just let me know,
>> rpmfusion has always been short staffed, so we have to do the best we
>> can I suppose. I'm willing to help where I can.
>
> The direct problems at hand: The only x86 builder that is left has no
> local CentOS/RHEL mirror; the admin of this machine might be able to
> create one in the local net on the machine where other repos are
> mirrored.
Screw it, why not. I'm rsync'ing down the CentOS 5.5 trees right now.
/me makes a note to set up the builder this WE if nobody else indicates
to do it
Nb: the el6 trees on my builder are restricted to local access only,
as they're true-blue (er, red?) RHEL6 GA trees.
Noticed that.
We should switch
probably switch to CentOS 6 once its available. Also, the configs
will likely also need to point at the optional trees to pick up an
array of additional BuildReqs for a lot of things.
I did only configure the Workstation and the server tree for now and
thought we can take care of the other stuff once it's needed.
But yes, CentOS6 is likely the best in the long term.
[...]
CU
knurd
8:22 p.m.
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 08:48:26PM +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
On 30.11.2010 20:20, Jack Neely wrote:
> But alas, I too have not received any guidance how, specifically, I can help.
As I said, things like that are one of the reasons why I chose to take a
break. Yes, I could go wild and hand out permissions to systems (I think
I have access nearly everywhere), but we have a "infrastructure lead"
that IMHO is supposed to coordinate things like that to avoid chaos :-/
Cu
knurd
Things I see that I would be interested in helping with:
* CVS issues always take too long to resolve. I'd like to help
* Build System - Being another set of eyes to diagnose problems and to
contribute my own build machines.
In the long term, I'd like to see us form some teams to work on bring up
koji and git-dist while keeping our day to day builds/pushes working
smoothly.
Jack
--
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Linux Czar, OIT Campus Linux Services
Office of Information Technology, NC State University
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