Hi, I just check and repoquery --releasever=15 \* | grep -i mame repoquery --releasever=15 -ql sdlmame-data-roms-0:0120-3.fc11.noarch /usr/share/mame/roms/robby.zip on F17 yum provides */robby.zip No Matches found Have this rom is good, for everyone test quickly the frontends. So if no reason to not have it, I'd like have it again :) Thanks,

On Ter, 2012-07-03 at 07:15 +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote: > W dniu 03.07.2012 04:43, Sérgio Basto pisze: >> Hi, >> I just check and >> >> repoquery --releasever=15 \* | grep -i mame >> repoquery --releasever=15 -ql sdlmame-data-roms-0:0120-3.fc11.noarch >> /usr/share/mame/roms/robby.zip >> >> on F17 >> yum provides */robby.zip >> No Matches found >> >> Have this rom is good, for everyone test quickly the frontends. >> So if no reason to not have it, I'd like have it again :) >> >> Thanks, >> > This package was retired due to not making sense. Could we add : /usr/share/doc/sdlmame-data-0145/README.ROMs /usr/share/doc/sdlmame-data-0145/README.robby /usr/share/mame/roms/robby.zip to sdlmame-data-0145-1.fc17.noarch ? It is important, IMO Thanks,

On Ter, 2012-07-03 at 18:24 +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote: > To me packaging this file makes about as much sense as packaging big > buck bunny to test media players. If you would like to have this > package > in the repos, feel free to unretire it and take ownership. Some players indeed pack a little sample (Microsoft always pack some images) but is not same thing, normally we don't have roms in our computer. After think about, I prefer include the sample rom in sdlmame-data, will give us much _less_ work. I might join as co-mainteiner of sdlmame-data we can talk about this on IRC #rpmfusion , if you like . Thanks,

On Sáb, 2012-07-07 at 08:44 +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote: > W dniu 04.07.2012 19:28, Sérgio Basto pisze: >> On Ter, 2012-07-03 at 18:24 +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote: >>> To me packaging this file makes about as much sense as packaging big >>> buck bunny to test media players. If you would like to have this >>> package >>> in the repos, feel free to unretire it and take ownership. >> >> Some players indeed pack a little sample (Microsoft always pack some >> images) but is not same thing, normally we don't have roms in our >> computer. >> After think about, I prefer include the sample rom in sdlmame-data, >> will give us much _less_ work. I might join as co-mainteiner of >> sdlmame-data >> >> we can talk about this on IRC #rpmfusion , if you like . >> >> Thanks, >> > I guess this can be done if it is only the robby rom, the other ones > available at mamedev.org need to be downloaded from there IIRC. > > I'll look into it during the next update. Thanks for attending my request, I send in attached my proposal patch for sdlmame-data.spec, which is based on rpmfusion/sdlmame-data-roms/F-16/sdlmame-data-roms.spec We can get quickly robby rom and sdlmame-data-roms-README.ROMs with: yumdownloader --source sdlmame-data-roms --releasever=16 rpm -ivh sdlmame-data-roms-0120-3.fc11.src.rpm mv ~/rpmbuild/SOURCES/sdlmame-data-roms-README.ROMs sdlmame-data/devel mv ~/rpmbuild/SOURCES/robby.zip sdlmame-data/devel Thanks,

On Dom, 2012-07-15 at 12:24 +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote: > W dniu 08.07.2012 22:43, Sérgio Basto pisze: >> On Sáb, 2012-07-07 at 08:44 +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote: >>> W dniu 04.07.2012 19:28, Sérgio Basto pisze: >>>> On Ter, 2012-07-03 at 18:24 +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote: >>>>> To me packaging this file makes about as much sense as packaging big >>>>> buck bunny to test media players. If you would like to have this >>>>> package >>>>> in the repos, feel free to unretire it and take ownership. >>>> >>>> Some players indeed pack a little sample (Microsoft always pack some >>>> images) but is not same thing, normally we don't have roms in our >>>> computer. >>>> After think about, I prefer include the sample rom in sdlmame-data, >>>> will give us much _less_ work. I might join as co-mainteiner of >>>> sdlmame-data >>>> >>>> we can talk about this on IRC #rpmfusion , if you like . >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>> I guess this can be done if it is only the robby rom, the other ones >>> available at mamedev.org need to be downloaded from there IIRC. >>> >>> I'll look into it during the next update. >> >> Thanks for attending my request, I send in attached my proposal patch >> for sdlmame-data.spec, which is based on >> rpmfusion/sdlmame-data-roms/F-16/sdlmame-data-roms.spec >> >> We can get quickly robby rom and sdlmame-data-roms-README.ROMs with: >> yumdownloader --source sdlmame-data-roms --releasever=16 >> rpm -ivh sdlmame-data-roms-0120-3.fc11.src.rpm >> mv ~/rpmbuild/SOURCES/sdlmame-data-roms-README.ROMs sdlmame-data/devel >> mv ~/rpmbuild/SOURCES/robby.zip sdlmame-data/devel >> >> Thanks, >> > I looked into it and it seems robby needs to be downloaded from the > mamedev.org website exactly as the others: > > ROMs for Free Download > > Thanks to the generosity of some of the original creators of the classic > games that MAME® can emulate, several games have been released for free, > non-commercial use. It is our hope that in the future, we will be able > to add more games to this list. > > Note: The ROMs on these pages have been approved for free distribution > on this site only. Just because they are available here for download > does not entitle you to put them on your own site, include them with > your own distributions of MAME, or bundle them with your software, > cabinet, or other item. To do that, you must obtain permission from the > original owners. I think, all rooms except "Robby Roto", based on sdlmame-data-roms-README.ROMs, you may read it on sdlmame-data-roms branch F-16, sdlmame-data-roms/F-16/sdlmame-data-roms-README.ROMs "Due to copyright, we are only able to provide the Robby Roto romset, as it is the only one in the Public Domain. There are some other romsets available for non-commercial use here: http://www.mamedev.org/roms/ When it comes to others, you need to dump them from your PCBs." I can guarantee, that rom "Robby Roto" was distributed for several years in rpmfusion and I'm not aware of any problem. Best,

On Dom, 2012-07-15 at 20:23 +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote: > W dniu 15.07.2012 16:12, Sérgio Basto pisze: > > On Dom, 2012-07-15 at 12:24 +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote: > >> W dniu 08.07.2012 22:43, Sérgio Basto pisze: > >>> On Sáb, 2012-07-07 at 08:44 +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote: > >>>> W dniu 04.07.2012 19:28, Sérgio Basto pisze: > >>>>> On Ter, 2012-07-03 at 18:24 +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote: > >>>>>> To me packaging this file makes about as much sense as packaging big > >>>>>> buck bunny to test media players. If you would like to have this > >>>>>> package > >>>>>> in the repos, feel free to unretire it and take ownership. > >>>>> > >>>>> Some players indeed pack a little sample (Microsoft always pack some > >>>>> images) but is not same thing, normally we don't have roms in our > >>>>> computer. > >>>>> After think about, I prefer include the sample rom in sdlmame-data, > >>>>> will give us much _less_ work. I might join as co-mainteiner of > >>>>> sdlmame-data > >>>>> > >>>>> we can talk about this on IRC #rpmfusion , if you like . > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> > >>>> I guess this can be done if it is only the robby rom, the other ones > >>>> available at mamedev.org need to be downloaded from there IIRC. > >>>> > >>>> I'll look into it during the next update. > >>> > >>> Thanks for attending my request, I send in attached my proposal patch > >>> for sdlmame-data.spec, which is based on > >>> rpmfusion/sdlmame-data-roms/F-16/sdlmame-data-roms.spec > >>> > >>> We can get quickly robby rom and sdlmame-data-roms-README.ROMs with: > >>> yumdownloader --source sdlmame-data-roms --releasever=16 > >>> rpm -ivh sdlmame-data-roms-0120-3.fc11.src.rpm > >>> mv ~/rpmbuild/SOURCES/sdlmame-data-roms-README.ROMs sdlmame-data/devel > >>> mv ~/rpmbuild/SOURCES/robby.zip sdlmame-data/devel > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >> I looked into it and it seems robby needs to be downloaded from the > >> mamedev.org website exactly as the others: > >> > >> ROMs for Free Download > >> > >> Thanks to the generosity of some of the original creators of the classic > >> games that MAME® can emulate, several games have been released for free, > >> non-commercial use. It is our hope that in the future, we will be able > >> to add more games to this list. > >> > >> Note: The ROMs on these pages have been approved for free distribution > >> on this site only. Just because they are available here for download > >> does not entitle you to put them on your own site, include them with > >> your own distributions of MAME, or bundle them with your software, > >> cabinet, or other item. To do that, you must obtain permission from the > >> original owners. > > > > I think, all rooms except "Robby Roto", based on > > sdlmame-data-roms-README.ROMs, you may read it on sdlmame-data-roms > > branch F-16, sdlmame-data-roms/F-16/sdlmame-data-roms-README.ROMs > > "Due to copyright, we are only able to provide the Robby Roto romset, as > > it is the only one in the Public Domain. > > > > There are some other romsets available for non-commercial use here: > > http://www.mamedev.org/roms/ > > > > When it comes to others, you need to dump them from your PCBs." > > > > I can guarantee, that rom "Robby Roto" was distributed for several years > > in rpmfusion and I'm not aware of any problem. > > > > Best, > > > Well, I wrote that file I'm only based on that, if you wrote it, you should know better than me. what can I say ? I don't understand if was shipped on F16 , Why shouldn't be on F17 ? but what you decide is good to me ..., I just tried improve rpmfusion.

> based on an email sent to Aaron Giles (he was > MAME maintainer back in 2007). Maybe the copyright was different back > then, or he was mistaken. Below is what the readme included in robby.zip > says, it is definitely not public domain. > > From: Jay Fenton <jay(a)fentonia.com&gt; > To: gridle(a)mbnet.fi > Date: 5.6.1999 2:11 > Subject: Robby Roto ROM released for free non-commercial uses by > author/owner "Robby Roto ROM released for free (non-commercial uses)" > I used to write games for Bally/Midway in the 1970's and early > 1980's. One of my less successful titles was Robby Roto. > My contract with Midway specified that after shipments dropped > below a certain level, that the rights to this game reverted to me. > Needless to say, this has happened. > > I notice that Robby Roto is available on a few download sites for > MAME. I would like the world to know that as the legal owner, > the ROM images from Robby Roto are hearby declared free for > unlimited non-commercial duplication and play by MAME users. > > -- Jay Fenton