Re: Omega - Sudo for first user?
--- On Wed, 10/1/08, Rahul Sundaram <metherid(a)gmail.com> wrote:
From: Rahul Sundaram <metherid(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Omega - Sudo for first user?
To: "RPM Fusion developers discussion list"
<rpmfusion-developers(a)lists.rpmfusion.org>
Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 12:28 PM
Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> On 01.10.2008 16:43, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>
>> If I stuck this portion into the fedora-live
initscript, it would
>> enable sudo for the first user entered during
firstboot. Does this
>> seem like a sensible thing to do? Does anyone have
the details handy
>> on modifying consolehelper as well?
>
> The official RPM Fusion spin should IMHO be a Fedora +
add-on packages
> and nothing else.
>
>
> Yes, we could do fancy things like enabling sudo by
default and
> hundred other things where Fedora sucks. But
that's somethings that is
> IMHO just as bad as replacing packages from Fedora
(which we don't do)
I kind of see your point but I think there is room for
minor
improvements such as these. There is a difference between
replacing
packages and doing these simple configuration changes.
Replacement
packages (often) break your upgrade experience. I would
like to do a
compose with sudo enabled like this and get feedback from
more users.
It might help/push Fedora to do it as well soon.
Rahul
I agree with knurd on this. Think about end-users. Fedora forums are the first places they
go when they have problems/want to ask questions.
My experience about repo queries in Fedora forums tells me whenever someone posts a
problem it takes some message traffic until that someone explains his repo config and then
people have to dig into his config files to extract the repo-specific-problem. To avoid
this, I think, we should keep the Fedora-compliance as the first rule. Livna had a very
good reputation by obeying this rule.
Again as knurd said, not changing the original Fedora setup will keep the
"backward" compatibility of "Omega" documentation/howto's sane
with Fedora. e.g. I'm almost sure that this will save a lot of message traffic in the
forums/blogs.
As someone who just made his leap from the end-user side to the devel side I think we
should care about such things.
oget
P.S: I like this "Omega" idea by the way.