Re: Omega - Sudo for first user?
On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 23:12 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
>>> On 01.10.2008 16:43, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If I stuck this portion into the fedora-live initscript, it would
>>>> enable sudo for the first user entered during firstboot. Does this
>>>> seem like a sensible thing to do? Does anyone have the details
>>>> handy on modifying consolehelper as well?
>>>
>>> The official RPM Fusion spin should IMHO be a Fedora + add-on
>>> packages and nothing else.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, we could do fancy things like enabling sudo by default and
>>> hundred other things where Fedora sucks. But that's somethings that
>>> is IMHO just as bad as replacing packages from Fedora (which we
>>> don't do)
>> I kind of see your point but I think there is room for minor
>> improvements such as these.
>
> I think that if this improvement is worth the trouble, it should go
> into the firstboot application (upstream), even if only as a
> configurable firstboot option.
Sure, there is no disagreement on the ideal path. There has been RFE's
(sometimes with patches) for similar things a long time. The
traditional problem is a very diffused userbase where anything except
status quo tends to meet with opposition.
It's not "not changing the status quo", it's a matter of
"experienced
users vs. newbies lacking the knowledge to understand the status quo".
The recent change to add sbin to path being a recent example
where somebody decides to go ahead and do
it anyway.
Correct, a masterpiece of where uneducated newbies are outsmarting
themselves and are throwing away well-thought out principles which have
developed over a long period of development for good reasons.
To me, this /sbin PATH thing is a regression and a Fedora mistake.
Fortunately, it's unimportant enough to fret about it.
Hopefully that happens with sudo as well.
Well, ... see
above.
Ralf