[Bug 476] New: Review request: blender-nonfree - Additonal package which contains non-free parts of blender
4:24 p.m.
http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=476
Summary: Review request: blender-nonfree - Additonal package
which contains non-free parts of blender
Product: Package Reviews
Version: Current
Platform: All
OS/Version: GNU/Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P5
Component: Review Request
AssignedTo: rpmfusion-package-review(a)rpmfusion.org
ReportedBy: Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de
CC: rpmfusion-package-review(a)rpmfusion.org
Estimated Hours: 0.0
SPEC: http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-nonfree/blender-nonfree.spec
SRPM:
http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-nonfree/blender-nonfree-2.48a-1.fc...
Description:
Blender is the essential software solution you need for 3D, from modeling,
animation, rendering and post-production to interactive creation and playback.
Professionals and novices can easily and inexpensively publish stand-alone,
secure, multi-platform content to the web, CD-ROMs, and other media.
This package contains the non-free parts which you will get, if you are
building blender with ffmpeg support. This Package requires the free
blender package from the Fedora project.
Why not in Fedora:
This packages contains part of the blender package which you will get if you
may build blender with ffmpget. This part which depend on ffmpeg can't be
included into Fedora caused by potential patent issues.
Rpmlit output:
$ rpmlint blender-nonfree-2.48a-1.fc11.src.rpm
1 packages and 0 specfiles checked; 0 errors, 0 warnings.
$ rpmlint blender-nonfree-2.48a-1.fc11.x86_64.rpm
1 packages and 0 specfiles checked; 0 errors, 0 warnings.
$ rpmlint blenderplayer-nonfree-2.48a-1.fc11.x86_64.rpm
1 packages and 0 specfiles checked; 0 errors, 0 warnings.
$ rpmlint blender-nonfree-debuginfo-2.48a-1.fc11.x86_64.rpm
1 packages and 0 specfiles checked; 0 errors, 0 warnings.
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4:35 p.m.
New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-nonfree - Additonal package which contains non-free parts of blender
http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=476
Orcan Ogetbil <oget.fedora(a)gmail.com> changed:
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--- Comment #1 from Orcan Ogetbil <oget.fedora(a)gmail.com> 2009-04-01 18:35:09 ---
As far as I know ffmpeg is free software (hence it is in rpmfusion-free). The
reason it is not in Fedora is, it contains patent-encumbered media
decoder/encoders. For similar reasons, some packages in rpmfusion-free have
"-freeworld" appended to their names.
You might want to update the package name, summary and the description
accordingly.
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4:53 p.m.
New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-nonfree - Additonal package which contains non-free parts of blender
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--- Comment #2 from Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> 2009-04-01 18:53:37
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New release:
SPEC: http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-nonfree/blender-freeword.spec
SRPM:
http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-nonfree/blender-freeword-2.48a-1.f...
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4:55 p.m.
New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additonal parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> changed:
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Summary|Review request: blender- |Review request: blender-
|nonfree - Additonal package |freeworld - Additonal parts
|which contains non-free |of blender not distributed
|parts of blender |in Fedora
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6:50 p.m.
New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additonal parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #3 from Andrea Musuruane <musuruan(a)gmail.com> 2009-04-01 20:50:25 ---
(In reply to comment #2)
New release:
SPEC: http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-nonfree/blender-freeword.spec
SRPM:
http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-nonfree/blender-freeword-2.48a-1.f...
Error 404 - Not found.
I think the correct URL's are:
http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-freeworld/blender-freeworld.spec
http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-freeworld/blender-freeword-2.48a-1...
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6:54 p.m.
New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additonal parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #4 from Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> 2009-04-01 20:54:45
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Yes, sorry for any inconvieniences.
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6:57 p.m.
New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additonal parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #5 from Andrea Musuruane <musuruan(a)gmail.com> 2009-04-01 20:57:25 ---
* This macro seems not to be used:
%define blend blender-freeworld
* In this macro blender-nonfree needs to be changed to blender-freeworld:
%define plugins %{_libdir}/blender-nonfree/plugins
It would be easier to use the name macro in this way:
%define plugins %{_libdir}/%{name}/plugins
* Moreover, there are various references to "blenderplayer-nonfree" that needs
to be changed too.
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additonal parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #6 from Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> 2009-04-01 21:57:44
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New upload:
SPEC: http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-freeworld/blender-freeworld.spec
SRPM:
http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-freeworld/blender-freeword-2.48a-2...
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10:08 p.m.
New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additonal parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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NicolasChauvet <kwizart(a)gmail.com> changed:
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--- Comment #7 from NicolasChauvet <kwizart(a)gmail.com> 2009-04-02 00:08:25 ---
(In reply to comment #5)
* This macro seems not to be used:
%define blend blender-freeworld
* In this macro blender-nonfree needs to be changed to blender-freeworld:
%define plugins %{_libdir}/blender-nonfree/plugins
It would be easier to use the name macro in this way:
%define plugins %{_libdir}/%{name}/plugins
This is not as easy, so I tend to
disagree, this content from blender-nonfree
shoudln't override the content fromm blender itself. so for some part, it
should use the blender compiled shared object.
This is a dumb assumption at this time as I've just look at the spec file
itself.
Use libGL-devel and libGLU-devel instead of harcoded mesa vendor ones.
- I never understood why ${RPM_BUILD_ROOT}/%{_bindir} was used instead of
$RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_bindir}; but this is trivial. (and also more aesthetic: it
suggest that you know that %{_bindir} already have a "/" at the beginning).
BTW, - You need to remove the x264 sources along with ffmpeg ones from the
fedora source archive.
- Are you sure to have solve the problem with the blender binary/noarch script
directory (where blender plugins will store their content and temporary files)?
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler(a)chello.at> changed:
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Summary|Review request: blender- |Review request: blender-
|freeworld - Additonal parts |freeworld - Additional parts
|of blender not distributed |of blender not distributed
|in Fedora |in Fedora
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #8 from NicolasChauvet <kwizart(a)gmail.com> 2009-04-16 11:44:00 ---
ping ?
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #9 from Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> 2009-04-20 18:44:42
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(In reply to comment #7)
(In reply to comment #5)
> * This macro seems not to be used:
>
> %define blend blender-freeworld
>
> * In this macro blender-nonfree needs to be changed to blender-freeworld:
>
> %define plugins %{_libdir}/blender-nonfree/plugins
>
> It would be easier to use the name macro in this way:
>
> %define plugins %{_libdir}/%{name}/plugins
This is not as easy, so I tend to disagree, this content from blender-nonfree
shoudln't override the content fromm blender itself. so for some part, it
should use the blender compiled shared object.
This is a dumb assumption at this time as I've just look at the spec file
itself.
Please be aware, that the access to the diretories whill be come from
~/.blender/plugins. This directories contains symlinks which are created from
the blender wrapper script and point to the shared objects in
%{_libdir}/%{name}/plugins.
Use libGL-devel and libGLU-devel instead of harcoded mesa vendor
ones.
This is a good idea.
- I never understood why ${RPM_BUILD_ROOT}/%{_bindir} was used
instead of
$RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_bindir}; but this is trivial. (and also more aesthetic: it
suggest that you know that %{_bindir} already have a "/" at the beginning).
Bad habit.
BTW, - You need to remove the x264 sources along with ffmpeg ones
from the
fedora source archive.
Done.
- Are you sure to have solve the problem with the blender
binary/noarch script
directory (where blender plugins will store their content and temporary files)?
Should be fixed.
Next Release:
SPEC: http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-freeworld/blender-freeworld.spec
SRPM:
http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-freeworld/blender-freeworld-2.48a-...
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #10 from Orcan Ogetbil <oget.fedora(a)gmail.com> 2009-04-20 18:56:17 ---
I was passing by and just wanted to stop to say that the new guidelines prefer
usage of %global instead of %define.
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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NicolasChauvet <kwizart(a)gmail.com> changed:
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--- Comment #11 from NicolasChauvet <kwizart(a)gmail.com> 2009-04-20 19:13:05 ---
(In reply to comment #10)
I was passing by and just wanted to stop to say that the new
guidelines prefer
usage of %global instead of %define.
Yep, but in some case, it doesn't work as
expected.
@Jochen
BTW, don't forget to update the F-11 branch also and to request the F-11
package to get tagged as F-11 Final.
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #12 from Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> 2009-04-20 19:23:03
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Next Release:
SPEC: http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-freeworld/blender-freeworld.spec
SRPM:
http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-freeworld/blender-freeworld-2.48a-...
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #13 from Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> 2009-04-26 20:55:12
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Ping Nicolas
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #14 from NicolasChauvet <kwizart(a)gmail.com> 2009-04-27 00:56:47 ---
why are you still using %{_libdir}/blender-freeworld/ ?
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #15 from NicolasChauvet <kwizart(a)gmail.com> 2009-04-27 01:01:40 ---
do you really needs to have :
%files -n blenderplayer-freeworld ?
Why you cannot use the blender version instead ?
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #16 from Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> 2009-04-28 17:37:34
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I have done a rpmdiff beetween blender and blender-freeworld. All the files,
which was detected as diferent was moved to a special place in the
blender-freeworld package.
I hope this will answers the last two comments.
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #17 from NicolasChauvet <kwizart(a)gmail.com> 2009-04-28 18:25:51 ---
(In reply to comment #16)
I have done a rpmdiff beetween blender and blender-freeworld. All the
files,
which was detected as diferent was moved to a special place in the
blender-freeworld package.
I hope this will answers the last two comments.
no
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #18 from Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> 2009-04-29 18:48:54
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I have take an closer look on blenderplayer-freeworld.bin. A ldd shows
dependency agains lame and other libraries provied by rpmfussion. So there is a
need for inclussion of a blenderplayer-freeworld subpackage in rpmfusion.
By the content of the %{_libdir}/blender-freeworld/plugins the files show
differents agains the corresponding files of %{_libdir}/blender/plugins, but I
can't find out the reason. A ldd shows no references to libraries only provided
by rpmfusion.
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #19 from NicolasChauvet <kwizart(a)gmail.com> 2009-04-29 19:27:06 ---
(In reply to comment #18)
I have take an closer look on blenderplayer-freeworld.bin. A ldd
shows
dependency agains lame and other libraries provied by rpmfussion. So there is a
need for inclussion of a blenderplayer-freeworld subpackage in rpmfusion.
This is
possible, but does it worth it ? It will Requires handleling the
namespace of blender-player with alternatives. (and possibly registering
blenderplayer with the blender mime-type with a .desktop file).
Also, you should better use ldd -u -r in case of the linking to be done despite
the library is not needed ...
By the content of the %{_libdir}/blender-freeworld/plugins the files
show
differents agains the corresponding files of %{_libdir}/blender/plugins, but I
can't find out the reason. A ldd shows no references to libraries only provided
by rpmfusion.
That would be really kind not to duplicate this directory then.
Specially to
avoid to register plugins once with blender and another time with
blender-freeworld.
About this, I would appreciate that you review the LuxRender so we are sure
that the plugin directory works as expected:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458090
BTW, Please also check that the .so files in the plugin directory are set
exectuable so they are stripped.
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #20 from Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> 2009-05-03 20:59:40
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O. K. I have taken the following dicision:
1.) I have remove the files from %{_libdir}/blender-freeworld/plugins
2.) I want to keep the bloenderplayer-freeworld.bin file. I have a
blenderplayer wrapper script in the rawhide version of blender in the Fedora
CVS repository.
Next Release:
SPEC: http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-freeworld/blender-freeworld.spec
SRPM:
http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-freeworld/blender-freeworld-2.48a-...
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #21 from Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> 2009-05-14 18:38:19
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(In reply to comment #19)
About this, I would appreciate that you review the LuxRender so we
are sure
that the plugin directory works as expected:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458090
this review was approved my me.
BTW, Please also check that the .so files in the plugin directory are
set
exectuable so they are stripped.
Relating to my last comment, I have removed the so files from this package.
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #22 from Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> 2009-05-27 19:05:51
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Ping kwizart
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #23 from Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> 2009-06-01 22:52:55
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Because blender-2.49 is available now, here a new release of the package:
Next Release:
SPEC: http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-freeworld/blender-freeworld.spec
SRPM:
http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-freeworld/blender-freeworld-2.49-1...
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #24 from NicolasChauvet <kwizart(a)gmail.com> 2009-06-02 10:21:11 ---
You need to use the system libraries whenever it is possible.
This is a rather big task for both blender/blender-freeworld.
Furthermore some content from blender (Sources and/or Patches) Aren't still
upstreamed:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WhyUpstream
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #25 from Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> 2009-06-03 18:09:04
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Next Release:
SPEC: http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-freeworld/blender-freeworld.spec
SRPM:
http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-freeworld/blender-freeworld-2.49-2...
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #26 from Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> 2009-06-18 19:25:46
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Ping kwizart
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #27 from NicolasChauvet <kwizart(a)gmail.com> 2009-06-19 15:20:24 ---
Why aren't you using the same repackaged version of blender that fedora use,
Most of the dependencies there should be taken out of the archive
anyway...(except ftgl if it cannot be updated to use the system one for F-12).
I've updated the source packaging method for the fedora side, please get in
sync with it.
I don't understand what the status of the script to be merged?
What if scripts got removed (example: some are from 2.48 to 2.49 update, which
produce broken symlinks that will remains).
I've spent few hours to improve the script, but this problem will remains.
(scripts could be removed
For the longer term, what blender-wrapper does should be implemented in the
blender binary IMO. (or just look for multiple system/user scripts directories
but bind writable directory to user relative ones).
I have a problem with blender been updated to 2.49 for F-10 before yafaray
0.1.0 is ready. Specially as the previous yafray 0.0.9 support has been dropped
with this update. Once yafaray is ready, the F-10 update can be done (then
blender-freeworld introduced to F-10) But I'm not fan of major version changes
for every current Fedora release, specially as we are now in "the real world"
with all the system dependencies.
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #28 from NicolasChauvet <kwizart(a)gmail.com> 2009-06-19 15:30:57 ---
BTW, I'm updating fedora with 2.49a
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #29 from Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> 2009-06-25 18:18:44
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New upstream release:
SPEC: http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-nonfree/blender-nonfree.spec
SRPM:
http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-nonfree/blender-nonfree-2.49a-1.fc...
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #30 from NicolasChauvet <kwizart(a)gmail.com> 2009-06-25 18:29:02 ---
There is a 404! have you mixed freeworld over the nonfree version?
We are looking at the freeworld version here.
But again you shouldn't need to use the whole blender package.
Please use the repackaged version the same as Fedora now uses. it will save us
around half the size. (along with the blender-repack.sh script).
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #31 from Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> 2009-06-25 19:54:01
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Sorry for any inconviniences.
SPEC: http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-freeworld/blender-freeworld.spec
SRPM:
http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-freeworld/blender-freeworld-2.49a-...
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #32 from NicolasChauvet <kwizart(a)gmail.com> 2009-06-26 15:34:55 ---
(In reply to comment #30)
...
But again you shouldn't need to use the whole blender package.
Please use the repackaged version the same as Fedora now uses. it will save us
around half the size. (along with the blender-repack.sh script).
^^ You shoudn't choose to ignore this comment !
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #33 from Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> 2009-06-28 20:47:25
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(In reply to comment #32)
(In reply to comment #30)
> But again you shouldn't need to use the whole blender
package.
> Please use the repackaged version the same as Fedora now uses. it will save us
> around half the size. (along with the blender-repack.sh script).
^^ You shoudn't choose to ignore this comment !
I disagree with you. On fedora we need a repackaged source because the original
package contains parts with potential patent issues. But here on freeworld the
only thing we need to do is to remove the system libraries from the original
package in the %prep stanza to make surce, that the build will be going agains
the system libraries.
I want to point out, that there is a packaging guideline draft which dicuss
this topic.
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #34 from NicolasChauvet <kwizart(a)gmail.com> 2009-06-29 11:28:11 ---
(In reply to comment #33)
...
I want to point out, that there is a packaging guideline draft which
dicuss
this topic.
There are no reference of guideline that cover the case of either freeworld
version of a package and the importance to have it built from the same source
tarball than fedora does, whenever it is possible (which is the case right
now).
There is neither guidelines for badly designed source released mechanism from
upstream. We should promote the usage of splitted tarball for blender (one for
contribs, the other for blender itself along with contribs patches). This is
the method used for vlc for an example.
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #35 from NicolasChauvet <kwizart(a)gmail.com> 2009-06-29 11:51:53 ---
I'm refering to :
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#Duplication_of_system...
As a consequence, There are no reason from the whole blender/blender-freeworld
lifetime to use internal dependency, specially as the system versions are using
exactly the same sourcecode.
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #36 from Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler(a)chello.at> 2009-06-29 14:38:29 ---
Upstream tarballs should not be modified unless required for legal reasons, or
in some exceptional cases (e.g. upstream releasing a 2 TB tarball). To use
system libraries, it's enough to make sure the internal copy is not used (rm
-rf in %prep is the safest method).
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #37 from NicolasChauvet <kwizart(a)gmail.com> 2009-06-29 19:58:07 ---
I'm not refering to (In reply to comment #36)
Upstream tarballs should not be modified unless required for legal
reasons
In this case I'm asking to use the same source tarball as Fedora does!
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #38 from Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler(a)chello.at> 2009-06-30 04:14:21 ---
Fedora has legal reasons to remove FFmpeg, RPM Fusion doesn't. There's no
requirement for -freeworld to use the same tarball as the matching Fedora
package, in fact in many cases it's impossible (for the same legal reasons
-freeworld is separate in the first place).
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #39 from NicolasChauvet <kwizart(a)gmail.com> 2009-06-30 09:15:57 ---
(In reply to comment #38)
Fedora has legal reasons to remove FFmpeg,
As we have
technical reasons not to link libraries statically. removing out the
internal dependencies from the tarball is the direct consequence of that it is
safe to do so. And there will be no lazy possibility to revert back to the
internal library. (understand, bFTGL is aimed to kick out).
So the reason isn't about Legal, It is technical, and it's not covered in
Fedora guidelines over saying that packagers have to use their own judgement.
package, in fact in many cases it's impossible
Why are we
talking about a general idea there ? I'm talking about the blender
case where some dependencies are there from years despite a system version
exists.
Furthermore, in the recent blender packaging history in Fedora, the tarball was
shamelessly redistributing patented sources code (libmp3lame/x264), so It will
be best to have the source tarball checked twice than once, specially has we
don't need theres sources code for other reason in RPMFusion. Comparing the
original source tarball over the reduced size blender tarball will have to be
done preliminarily as any blender version bump.
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #40 from Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler(a)chello.at> 2009-06-30 17:13:32 ---
As we have technical reasons not to link libraries statically.
removing out the
internal dependencies from the tarball is the direct consequence of that it is
safe to do so.
It's completely unnecessary and the Fedora guidelines explicitly say NOT to do
it. You should simply rm -rf the directories in %prep if you're worried about
them getting accidentally picked up, NOT remove them from the tarball.
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #41 from NicolasChauvet <kwizart(a)gmail.com> 2009-06-30 17:38:07 ---
Okay anyway I don't consider this as a valuable advice since you aren't
involved in blender packaging !
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #42 from Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)math.unl.edu> 2009-06-30 17:45:09 ---
Look, Kevin's advice is sound. Ignore it at your own peril.
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New subject: [Bug 476] Review request: blender-freeworld - Additional parts of blender not distributed in Fedora
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--- Comment #43 from Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> 2009-06-30 17:54:23
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I agree with kevin. Removing stuff from the upstream tar ball is only required
if you want to avoid redistributing stuff with legal issues. This is the
reason, why we have a modified tar ball of blender in Fedora.
On rpmfusion, we want to create a add-on package of blender which will use this
stuff, which we want to avoid in Fedora.
If you want to avoid, that blender will be build agains unwanted system
libraries bundled with it, you can do a simple rm -rf ... to avoid the use of
this libraries during the build process.
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--- Comment #44 from Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora(a)leemhuis.info> 2009-06-30 18:04:24
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(In reply to comment #43)
I agree with kevin. Removing stuff from the upstream tar ball is only
required
if you want to avoid redistributing stuff with legal issues.
+1
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--- Comment #45 from Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> 2009-08-04 20:10:13
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Ping kwizart
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--- Comment #46 from Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> 2009-09-07 21:15:07
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Next Release:
SPEC: http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-freeworld/blender-freeworld.spec
SRPM:
http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-freeworld/blender-freeworld-2.4b-1...
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--- Comment #47 from alsadi <alsadi(a)ojuba.org> 2009-09-08 12:02:00 ---
is this a joke ?
blender = 2.49b is needed by blender-freeworld-2.49b-1
where is that ?
it's not in fedora
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/blender
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--- Comment #48 from Jochen Schmitt <Jochen(a)herr-schmitt.de> 2009-11-11 21:51:58
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Sorry, should be:
http://www.herr-schmitt.de/pub/blender-freeworld/blender-freeworld-2.49b-...
The require statement to blender is not a joke. blender-freeworld should be
only an addon package to arm blender functionality which we can't provide in
the main Fedora repository.
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--- Comment #49 from Richard <hobbes1069(a)gmail.com> 2011-10-06 21:11:31 ---
Is anyone still interested in pursuing this? I'm will to be the reviewer but
the source archive issues need to be sorted out first.
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